If you could use any film or television show to demonstrate any idea/concept you've studied this year (both first or second semesters) what would you use and why?
eternal sunshine of the spotless mind..... it kind of shows what reality and life r.... theyre what u make it...in the end our life is just a memory... if ppl didnt have memories we would never learn anything.... if all we did was forgotten by everyone... including ourselves.... would it still count? how?.... it almost wouldnt.... its the choices you make everyday.... like exsistentialism... but we live in a world where they affect ppl... we always have to realize dat... that every philosophy, every action- we have to keep in mind that it will affect other ppl and any philosophy dat doesnt take dat into mind isnt complete....... as part of our human condition we must always be surrounded by other humans who also think and act... they affect and are affected.... ethics would not exsist if there werent others.....it isnt stealing if it wasnt someone elses.... but we only have complete acess to our minds and our needs.... its like all philosophy is trying to figure out our place in a world of other humans...in the end we cant really prove god exsist unless the 2nd coming happenes.... so its all about what we do with the limited knowledge we have of our exsistence.... we decide that life is worth living... the most important philosophy is the one that has a social part to it... we are often unaware that EVERYTHING... from the moment we are born is affected by society and others.... we can barely realistically fathom a world of just us.... think of the movie Crash.... not all of life comes full circle like dat... but the point is we all affect and are affected.... all philosophy must take on the importance of that concept... exsistentialism does it well if it is understood properly... i had never heard of it till this year and i loved reading the plays and the paper on it because it was almost like it summed up everything ive been trying to say for years... so i guess now im officially an exsistentialist??? the best philosophy is one which takes the reality of the human condition completely and which presents the reality back... almost timlessly... we will always be individuals in a world of millions... that must always be taken into account
I would choose the ending of Back To The Future: part III. The classic ending where the DeLorean (time machine) is destroyed, and Marty goes to pick up Jennifer, who believes that the whole trilogy has been just a weird dream - but then she sees in her pocket the "You're Fired!" fax from the 2015 timeline, getting erased. When Doc Brown appears in the flying steam-locomotive from 1895 with Clara Clayton and his two sons Jules and Verne, Jennifer asks why it was erased. He responds "because your future hasn't been written yet. Your future is whatever you want it to be. Make it a good one." So the ultimate moral of the BTTF series is just like Sartre's - for all the determinism in the film, ultimately, nothing determines our future but ourselves. THE END! Have a good summer!!
I would have to say that the Sith(bad guys?) philosophy in Star Wars demonstrates one of the key concepts of Existentialism. Existentialists believe that ethical statements are arbitrary. They think we can choose what is right or wrong. The Sith think the same way. In one scene in episode 3 the Emperor, who is the leader of the Sith, points out that it is merely our point of view that determines whether or not something is bad or good. It also seems like a parallel can be drawn between the Star Wars and Ayer’s theory of ethics. He says that ethical statements merely express feelings and are not meaningful. After watching Star Wars it seems like Darth Vader and his emperor feel the same way.
I would have to say that the Sith(bad guys?) philosophy in Star Wars demonstrates one of the key concepts of Existentialism. Existentialists believe that ethical statements are arbitrary. We can choose what is right or wrong. The Sith think the same thing. In one seen in episode 3 the Emperor, who is the leader of the Sith, points out that it is merely our point of view that determines whether or not something is bad or good. It also seems like a parallel can be drawn between the Star Wars and Ayer’s theory of ethics. He says that ethical statements merely express feelings and are not meaningful. After watching Star Wars it seems like Darth Vader and his emperor feel the same way.
Sorry for accidentally posting the same thing twice. I forgot to mention that there is one place where the Sith (Darth Vader and the Emperor) and the existentialists seem to diverge. Sartre thinks that we must take full responsibility for our actions. The Sith don’t appear to think this. Other than this one difference I think that the Sith and the existentialists are similar.
This is going to sound lame, but after the philosophy exam I wanted to turn my mind in to mush, so I went to go see Spiderman III and let me tell you-it would have been Sartre's wet dream! Basically, Spiderman has to overcome this alien black blob thing that acts like a symbiote, stealing his life energy while at the same time amplifying all his negative qualities and Spiderman basically allows that to happen and refuses to take responsibility for his actions until the end of the movie, where he realizes that there is always a choice, no matter the circumstances, and he chooses to be friendly Spiderman again.
I could think of a good movie or show until I turn on the TV and the answer just slapped me in the face. You may not have hear or watch it but its called A History of Violence, and stars Viggo Mortensen, Maria Bello, and Ashton Holmes… (yea I don’t know who they are either). The movie’s basically about a small town married diner owner whose violent past catches up with him after the residents of his town start hailing him as a hero. The amazing thing about this movie that someone Freud would find is that this diner owner used to be a violent mobster that ran away from that life style cause and seemingly finds a new one. He is able to successfully repress his past self so that he can recreate a new life including the whole package (i.e. wife, kids, house with a white picket fence). But the thing is he actually believes that he is this new person, meaning that even when people from his past track him down, he is neither either able to remember them and the stories their telling him or is he able to remember his past self. Also, and Freud would love this also, he seems to only be able to remember and express the violent side of him that was from his past (i.e. how to handle a gun, fighting) but this only comes out in the extreme circumstance that such attributes are required.
Therefore from looking at Freud’s concepts of the instinctual drives of aggression and the need to successfully repress those drives for the better half of society see can see that much to the enjoy of Freud this movie seemingly depict aspects of his theory the T.
Another funny thing about the movie, well at least I found it funny, in comparison the Freud theory about our another instinctual drive which is sexual in nature becomes apparent in a screen when the diner owner’s wife find out the truth and starts physically fighting, the owner reverts to his violent behaviour which then leads to his wife reverting to her sexual instinctual behaviour which then leads to…. I let you figure that part out for yourselves…
Well! There's this one show, called the Gilmore Girls (what? its a good show) I would show the one episode where Lorelai, played by Lauren Graham, has a dream where she's woken up by 100s of alarm clocks and goes to her kitchen to find Luke, the guy who owns the famous Luke's Diner where Lorelai goes ever so often. He's in her kitchen making breakfast for her. They kiss before he leaves, talks to her tummy, and leaves. This would be prefect for Freud's view on Dreams. Lorelai's Id secretly wants to have sex with Luke and have his kids, and it all plays out in her dream. Shocker!
alrighty, i know star wars was mentioned here in terms of the sith and how they relate to existentialist. but hello! the jedi!! the force!! thats pretty much the tao. the tao is like the energy that binds every thing in this world and it cant really be described but must be felt. that pretty much is the force. which is just the same thing, the energy that encompasses everything. it can be felt by a child and an adult. it must be trusted entirely and blindly (thats why luke is asked to do exercises blindfolded because he doesnt need his senses). so we all know where george lucas got his inspiration from now.
well looks like i'm late but i felt like metioning it as well...star wars and the jedi pretty much sum up the tao to a tee. you don't know how to describe it(the force) but it's always around you and helps guide you through the toughest times and overcome any obstacles.
also another good show that describes a philosophers views is desperate housewives, and sartre's view of "hell is other people". Sartre ultimately believes that "hell" is what lies within our actions and motives and that it is ultimately our own choices that bring about our downfall. In the Desperate Housewives series, the ladies of Wysteria Lane tend to focus less on how they personally feel about themsleves both mentally and physically, and essentially sell their souls to the devil, as they relish their daily lifestyles with jealousy, greed, gossip, lies and adultery and base their lives around what their nieghbours and the rest of the community think of them.
o and some other movies you guys should check out that'll really mess with your mind (you might have seen them already actually) 1. fight club 2. a scanner darkly 3. a waking life 4. memento 5. donnie darko
house on ethics!! all the characters have different motives behind their actions. cameron is the most kant-like, all about "doing the right thing", foreman is about power (i suppose he just wants to get a promotion or something), chase is...chase is just in the show for his cute aussie accent, and house's motives are usually to satisfy his personal amusement through other's suffering. i suppose house can also represent sartre, since his essence is somewhat dependent on other people he's never really...happy.
then since the show is a medical show and the whole episode is usually diagnosing the patient, we can examine the reasoning they took to reach the correct diagnosis (although i think all they do is really bad induction- going through all the most possible diseases based on past experience).
40 days and 40 nights. Freud. Josh Hartnet represses his sexual desire and ends up becoming the most neurotic, nervous, twitchy dude to walk the earth. Just goes to show that you have to sublimate healthily, or it will negatively effect your everyday life. Also: The Lion King. Totally KANT. every animal has their responsibility to the circle of life, Simba has a Duty to retake the thrown, even though it was the harder road. When faced with allowing letting evil brothers take over the thrown of the savana become a universal maxim, simba realized that to allow evil to prevail and live a carefree life with timon and pumba was wholly heteronymous.
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eternal sunshine of the spotless mind..... it kind of shows what reality and life r.... theyre what u make it...in the end our life is just a memory... if ppl didnt have memories we would never learn anything.... if all we did was forgotten by everyone... including ourselves.... would it still count? how?.... it almost wouldnt.... its the choices you make everyday.... like exsistentialism... but we live in a world where they affect ppl... we always have to realize dat... that every philosophy, every action- we have to keep in mind that it will affect other ppl and any philosophy dat doesnt take dat into mind isnt complete....... as part of our human condition we must always be surrounded by other humans who also think and act... they affect and are affected.... ethics would not exsist if there werent others.....it isnt stealing if it wasnt someone elses.... but we only have complete acess to our minds and our needs.... its like all philosophy is trying to figure out our place in a world of other humans...in the end we cant really prove god exsist unless the 2nd coming happenes.... so its all about what we do with the limited knowledge we have of our exsistence.... we decide that life is worth living... the most important philosophy is the one that has a social part to it... we are often unaware that EVERYTHING... from the moment we are born is affected by society and others.... we can barely realistically fathom a world of just us.... think of the movie Crash.... not all of life comes full circle like dat... but the point is we all affect and are affected.... all philosophy must take on the importance of that concept... exsistentialism does it well if it is understood properly... i had never heard of it till this year and i loved reading the plays and the paper on it because it was almost like it summed up everything ive been trying to say for years... so i guess now im officially an exsistentialist??? the best philosophy is one which takes the reality of the human condition completely and which presents the reality back... almost timlessly... we will always be individuals in a world of millions... that must always be taken into account
I would choose the ending of Back To The Future: part III. The classic ending where the DeLorean (time machine) is destroyed, and Marty goes to pick up Jennifer, who believes that the whole trilogy has been just a weird dream - but then she sees in her pocket the "You're Fired!" fax from the 2015 timeline, getting erased. When Doc Brown appears in the flying steam-locomotive from 1895 with Clara Clayton and his two sons Jules and Verne, Jennifer asks why it was erased. He responds "because your future hasn't been written yet. Your future is whatever you want it to be. Make it a good one." So the ultimate moral of the BTTF series is just like Sartre's - for all the determinism in the film, ultimately, nothing determines our future but ourselves. THE END! Have a good summer!!
I would have to say that the Sith(bad guys?) philosophy in Star Wars demonstrates one of the key concepts of Existentialism. Existentialists believe that ethical statements are arbitrary. They think we can choose what is right or wrong. The Sith think the same way. In one scene in episode 3 the Emperor, who is the leader of the Sith, points out that it is merely our point of view that determines whether or not something is bad or good. It also seems like a parallel can be drawn between the Star Wars and Ayer’s theory of ethics. He says that ethical statements merely express feelings and are not meaningful. After watching Star Wars it seems like Darth Vader and his emperor feel the same way.
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I would have to say that the Sith(bad guys?) philosophy in Star Wars demonstrates one of the key concepts of Existentialism. Existentialists believe that ethical statements are arbitrary. We can choose what is right or wrong. The Sith think the same thing. In one seen in episode 3 the Emperor, who is the leader of the Sith, points out that it is merely our point of view that determines whether or not something is bad or good. It also seems like a parallel can be drawn between the Star Wars and Ayer’s theory of ethics. He says that ethical statements merely express feelings and are not meaningful. After watching Star Wars it seems like Darth Vader and his emperor feel the same way.
Danny
Sorry for accidentally posting the same thing twice. I forgot to mention that there is one place where the Sith (Darth Vader and the Emperor) and the existentialists seem to diverge. Sartre thinks that we must take full responsibility for our actions. The Sith don’t appear to think this. Other than this one difference I think that the Sith and the existentialists are similar.
This is going to sound lame, but after the philosophy exam I wanted to turn my mind in to mush, so I went to go see Spiderman III and let me tell you-it would have been Sartre's wet dream! Basically, Spiderman has to overcome this alien black blob thing that acts like a symbiote, stealing his life energy while at the same time amplifying all his negative qualities and Spiderman basically allows that to happen and refuses to take responsibility for his actions until the end of the movie, where he realizes that there is always a choice, no matter the circumstances, and he chooses to be friendly Spiderman again.
I could think of a good movie or show until I turn on the TV and the answer just slapped me in the face. You may not have hear or watch it but its called A History of Violence, and stars Viggo Mortensen, Maria Bello, and Ashton Holmes… (yea I don’t know who they are either). The movie’s basically about a small town married diner owner whose violent past catches up with him after the residents of his town start hailing him as a hero. The amazing thing about this movie that someone Freud would find is that this diner owner used to be a violent mobster that ran away from that life style cause and seemingly finds a new one. He is able to successfully repress his past self so that he can recreate a new life including the whole package (i.e. wife, kids, house with a white picket fence). But the thing is he actually believes that he is this new person, meaning that even when people from his past track him down, he is neither either able to remember them and the stories their telling him or is he able to remember his past self. Also, and Freud would love this also, he seems to only be able to remember and express the violent side of him that was from his past (i.e. how to handle a gun, fighting) but this only comes out in the extreme circumstance that such attributes are required.
Therefore from looking at Freud’s concepts of the instinctual drives of aggression and the need to successfully repress those drives for the better half of society see can see that much to the enjoy of Freud this movie seemingly depict aspects of his theory the T.
Another funny thing about the movie, well at least I found it funny, in comparison the Freud theory about our another instinctual drive which is sexual in nature becomes apparent in a screen when the diner owner’s wife find out the truth and starts physically fighting, the owner reverts to his violent behaviour which then leads to his wife reverting to her sexual instinctual behaviour which then leads to…. I let you figure that part out for yourselves…
i think i post 4 comments in total through this term... soo i hope that last one was the final one
Well! There's this one show, called the Gilmore Girls (what? its a good show) I would show the one episode where Lorelai, played by Lauren Graham, has a dream where she's woken up by 100s of alarm clocks and goes to her kitchen to find Luke, the guy who owns the famous Luke's Diner where Lorelai goes ever so often. He's in her kitchen making breakfast for her. They kiss before he leaves, talks to her tummy, and leaves. This would be prefect for Freud's view on Dreams. Lorelai's Id secretly wants to have sex with Luke and have his kids, and it all plays out in her dream. Shocker!
alrighty, i know star wars was mentioned here in terms of the sith and how they relate to existentialist. but hello! the jedi!! the force!! thats pretty much the tao. the tao is like the energy that binds every thing in this world and it cant really be described but must be felt. that pretty much is the force. which is just the same thing, the energy that encompasses everything. it can be felt by a child and an adult. it must be trusted entirely and blindly (thats why luke is asked to do exercises blindfolded because he doesnt need his senses). so we all know where george lucas got his inspiration from now.
well looks like i'm late but i felt like metioning it as well...star wars and the jedi pretty much sum up the tao to a tee. you don't know how to describe it(the force) but it's always around you and helps guide you through the toughest times and overcome any obstacles.
also another good show that describes a philosophers views is desperate housewives, and sartre's view of "hell is other people". Sartre ultimately believes that "hell" is what lies within our actions and motives and that it is ultimately our own choices that bring about our downfall. In the Desperate Housewives series, the ladies of Wysteria Lane tend to focus less on how they personally feel about themsleves both mentally and physically, and essentially sell their souls to the devil, as they relish their daily lifestyles with jealousy, greed, gossip, lies and adultery and base their lives around what their nieghbours and the rest of the community think of them.
o and some other movies you guys should check out that'll really mess with your mind (you might have seen them already actually) 1. fight club
2. a scanner darkly
3. a waking life
4. memento
5. donnie darko
house on ethics!! all the characters have different motives behind their actions. cameron is the most kant-like, all about "doing the right thing", foreman is about power (i suppose he just wants to get a promotion or something), chase is...chase is just in the show for his cute aussie accent, and house's motives are usually to satisfy his personal amusement through other's suffering. i suppose house can also represent sartre, since his essence is somewhat dependent on other people he's never really...happy.
then since the show is a medical show and the whole episode is usually diagnosing the patient, we can examine the reasoning they took to reach the correct diagnosis (although i think all they do is really bad induction- going through all the most possible diseases based on past experience).
40 days and 40 nights. Freud.
Josh Hartnet represses his sexual desire and ends up becoming the most neurotic, nervous, twitchy dude to walk the earth. Just goes to show that you have to sublimate healthily, or it will negatively effect your everyday life.
Also:
The Lion King. Totally KANT. every animal has their responsibility to the circle of life, Simba has a Duty to retake the thrown, even though it was the harder road. When faced with allowing letting evil brothers take over the thrown of the savana become a universal maxim, simba realized that to allow evil to prevail and live a carefree life with timon and pumba was wholly heteronymous.
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